1 00:00:00,000 --> 00:00:02,140 We got a lot of doing plumbing in the winter. 2 00:00:02,140 --> 00:00:03,980 Everyone's lines freezing and breaking. 3 00:00:03,980 --> 00:00:06,340 As soon as you fix the leak, the next one pops open. 4 00:00:06,340 --> 00:00:08,220 Hey, you've been at some tough jobs. 5 00:00:08,220 --> 00:00:10,980 We'll be in the house out in Foster. 6 00:00:10,980 --> 00:00:12,180 We lit the torch. 7 00:00:12,180 --> 00:00:14,660 We had to worry about all the blown insulation. 8 00:00:14,660 --> 00:00:15,540 Yeah, yeah, yeah. 9 00:00:15,540 --> 00:00:17,620 One mistake, and the whole place would have gone up 10 00:00:17,620 --> 00:00:18,940 like the 4th of July. 11 00:00:18,940 --> 00:00:22,180 It would not have been a good time. 12 00:00:22,180 --> 00:00:22,980 Hello. 13 00:00:22,980 --> 00:00:23,660 Hey, Jason. 14 00:00:23,660 --> 00:00:24,540 How you doing? 15 00:00:24,540 --> 00:00:25,340 Hey, what's up, Donna? 16 00:00:25,340 --> 00:00:26,940 Hey, where are you guys at? 17 00:00:26,940 --> 00:00:28,540 Actually, we just finished up a job. 18 00:00:28,540 --> 00:00:29,020 What's up? 19 00:00:29,020 --> 00:00:31,620 Hey, I got a call from this man, Paul. 20 00:00:31,620 --> 00:00:34,980 He and his wife are the owners of Carousel Gardens 21 00:00:34,980 --> 00:00:36,020 in Seymour, Connecticut. 22 00:00:36,020 --> 00:00:36,660 It's a restaurant. 23 00:00:36,660 --> 00:00:37,660 Oh, in Connecticut? 24 00:00:37,660 --> 00:00:38,300 Yeah. 25 00:00:38,300 --> 00:00:39,580 I'm familiar with the place. 26 00:00:39,580 --> 00:00:42,180 Well, they've invited us to come on down 27 00:00:42,180 --> 00:00:44,740 and do an investigation on their restaurant, which 28 00:00:44,740 --> 00:00:46,500 used to be a Victorian mansion. 29 00:00:46,500 --> 00:00:49,380 And, as supposedly, a lot of activity attached to it. 30 00:00:49,380 --> 00:00:51,140 So what's Paul looking for from us? 31 00:00:51,140 --> 00:00:53,380 I'll fill you in when you guys get back here. 32 00:00:53,380 --> 00:00:55,500 Yeah, figure 15 minutes to half hour. 33 00:00:55,500 --> 00:00:56,260 All right, thanks. 34 00:00:56,260 --> 00:00:56,780 Bye. 35 00:00:56,780 --> 00:00:57,280 Bye. 36 00:00:57,280 --> 00:00:57,780 Bye. 37 00:00:59,020 --> 00:01:05,380 Hey, guys. 38 00:01:05,380 --> 00:01:08,100 Carousel Gardens Restaurant in Connecticut. 39 00:01:08,100 --> 00:01:10,700 This is their website, obviously, the Carousel Gardens. 40 00:01:10,700 --> 00:01:12,700 It's a 19th century Victorian. 41 00:01:12,700 --> 00:01:16,020 This house was built by a guy named Mr. Wooster. 42 00:01:16,020 --> 00:01:17,620 It is now a restaurant, and there 43 00:01:17,620 --> 00:01:20,620 are a lot of stories attached as far as paranormal things 44 00:01:20,620 --> 00:01:21,700 are having going on there. 45 00:01:21,700 --> 00:01:21,940 Sure. 46 00:01:21,940 --> 00:01:24,020 I think we both heard a lot about this place. 47 00:01:24,020 --> 00:01:25,420 Yeah, it's an interesting building. 48 00:01:25,420 --> 00:01:26,740 Yeah, that's the thing. 49 00:01:26,740 --> 00:01:28,940 Paul was telling me they had a lot of psychics out 50 00:01:28,940 --> 00:01:31,660 there and sensitives and gave their opinions, 51 00:01:31,660 --> 00:01:34,540 but they've never had anybody of tap's credibility come out 52 00:01:34,540 --> 00:01:36,180 and actually do an investigation. 53 00:01:36,180 --> 00:01:38,260 So let me, I wanted to show you some photos 54 00:01:38,260 --> 00:01:40,260 that some of the guests have taken. 55 00:01:40,260 --> 00:01:44,260 As you can see, there's some pretty crazy pictures. 56 00:01:44,260 --> 00:01:46,980 They're not your normal orb and bug pictures. 57 00:01:46,980 --> 00:01:50,420 In fact, there's one that looks like almost like an angel, 58 00:01:50,420 --> 00:01:52,980 very flowy kind of wavy look to it. 59 00:01:52,980 --> 00:01:54,820 I don't know what it could be. 60 00:01:54,820 --> 00:01:56,300 This is an interesting picture that 61 00:01:56,300 --> 00:01:58,060 was taken at the restaurant. 62 00:01:58,060 --> 00:01:58,460 OK. 63 00:01:58,460 --> 00:02:02,780 And you can see there's a white formation behind. 64 00:02:02,780 --> 00:02:05,580 Almost looks like your stereotypical ghost. 65 00:02:05,580 --> 00:02:07,740 Well, you know, there's a lot of reports of activity there, 66 00:02:07,740 --> 00:02:09,580 and I've always wanted to check it out. 67 00:02:09,580 --> 00:02:11,660 It looks like a pretty significant place. 68 00:02:11,660 --> 00:02:12,300 All right, awesome. 69 00:02:12,300 --> 00:02:14,500 So get the guys together and we'll do it. 70 00:02:14,500 --> 00:02:15,860 OK, sounds good. 71 00:02:15,860 --> 00:02:16,380 All right. 72 00:02:16,380 --> 00:02:16,860 Thanks. 73 00:02:16,860 --> 00:02:17,860 Thank you, Donna. 74 00:02:20,420 --> 00:02:22,180 In this whole case, like you know, 75 00:02:22,180 --> 00:02:24,620 it's basically psychics going there and saying, hey, 76 00:02:24,620 --> 00:02:25,500 this place is haunted. 77 00:02:25,500 --> 00:02:27,540 I've never seen real proof of paranormal activity 78 00:02:27,540 --> 00:02:28,620 with a psychic. 79 00:02:28,620 --> 00:02:31,700 I think when it comes to a psychic-based investigation, 80 00:02:31,700 --> 00:02:34,980 anybody can claim that they feel something in this area. 81 00:02:34,980 --> 00:02:37,460 Anybody can claim that they're able to see something 82 00:02:37,460 --> 00:02:38,420 that you're not. 83 00:02:38,420 --> 00:02:41,660 But there's no proof behind those claims, just one person's 84 00:02:41,660 --> 00:02:42,540 statement. 85 00:02:42,540 --> 00:02:43,860 Who can challenge your feelings. 86 00:02:43,860 --> 00:02:44,540 Exactly. 87 00:02:44,540 --> 00:02:46,780 I think it's all about empowering these people 88 00:02:46,780 --> 00:02:49,300 with the tools of analysis of critical thinking. 89 00:02:49,300 --> 00:02:49,860 Right, exactly. 90 00:02:49,860 --> 00:02:52,500 Being able to equip them as much as they're 91 00:02:52,500 --> 00:02:54,540 wanting to believe in the supernatural, 92 00:02:54,540 --> 00:02:55,860 because that's human tendency. 93 00:02:55,860 --> 00:02:58,300 We want to believe that there's something higher and bigger 94 00:02:58,300 --> 00:03:00,700 and better beyond what we can see and feel. 95 00:03:00,700 --> 00:03:02,140 Feelings aren't tangible. 96 00:03:02,140 --> 00:03:03,900 Emotions aren't tangible. 97 00:03:03,900 --> 00:03:07,260 Video and audio are tangible pieces of evidence. 98 00:03:07,260 --> 00:03:08,580 Let's see what we can find out. 99 00:03:08,580 --> 00:03:09,080 Yeah. 100 00:03:09,080 --> 00:03:11,780 I'm excited about it. 101 00:03:11,780 --> 00:03:12,780 There's the place, man. 102 00:03:21,780 --> 00:03:24,500 It does give you that creepy feeling, don't it? 103 00:03:24,500 --> 00:03:25,180 Hey, how you doing? 104 00:03:25,180 --> 00:03:25,420 Hi. 105 00:03:25,460 --> 00:03:26,620 Welcome to Curacao Gardens. 106 00:03:26,620 --> 00:03:27,580 I'm Jason Fintes. 107 00:03:27,580 --> 00:03:28,260 I'm Paul. 108 00:03:28,260 --> 00:03:29,100 Grant, nice to meet you. 109 00:03:29,100 --> 00:03:29,580 Nice to meet you. 110 00:03:29,580 --> 00:03:30,080 Grant. 111 00:03:30,080 --> 00:03:32,820 I wanted TAPS to come to investigate my restaurant, 112 00:03:32,820 --> 00:03:35,180 because I've had so many psychics and mediums 113 00:03:35,180 --> 00:03:36,620 and people come into the restaurant. 114 00:03:36,620 --> 00:03:39,660 I thought it'd be really good if TAPS could verify 115 00:03:39,660 --> 00:03:41,740 all of their scientific equipment, 116 00:03:41,740 --> 00:03:44,340 the experience that I've had, and see if there 117 00:03:44,340 --> 00:03:45,860 are spirits in the restaurant. 118 00:03:45,860 --> 00:03:48,540 The house was built in 1894 by Mr. Worcester. 119 00:03:48,540 --> 00:03:51,300 Mr. Worcester and his wife, Anna, had five daughters 120 00:03:51,300 --> 00:03:52,260 and one son. 121 00:03:52,260 --> 00:03:53,860 And the son's name was Horace. 122 00:03:53,860 --> 00:03:57,820 And the daughters were Anna, Claire, Louise, Myrtle. 123 00:03:57,820 --> 00:03:59,420 The last one was the youngest one, 124 00:03:59,420 --> 00:04:01,580 and her name was Halina Ruth Worcester. 125 00:04:01,580 --> 00:04:02,980 Well, do you want to give us a tour of the places 126 00:04:02,980 --> 00:04:03,740 that have activity? 127 00:04:03,740 --> 00:04:04,140 Sure. 128 00:04:04,140 --> 00:04:05,700 Come right into this room right here. 129 00:04:05,700 --> 00:04:07,180 This is our bar room. 130 00:04:07,180 --> 00:04:10,460 The cash registers come out, floated, turned upside down. 131 00:04:10,460 --> 00:04:11,580 Did you say floated? 132 00:04:11,580 --> 00:04:14,100 Yeah, it just came right out, turned upside down, 133 00:04:14,100 --> 00:04:16,300 and fell right straight through. 134 00:04:16,300 --> 00:04:17,460 All right, so we're next. 135 00:04:17,460 --> 00:04:18,900 All right, well, I have another great story that 136 00:04:18,900 --> 00:04:19,740 happens in the bar. 137 00:04:19,740 --> 00:04:22,100 And what I have is a bunch of dimes. 138 00:04:22,140 --> 00:04:24,100 And these are dimes that have come to me. 139 00:04:24,100 --> 00:04:25,660 So how did these come to you? 140 00:04:25,660 --> 00:04:26,820 All right, with these dimes here, 141 00:04:26,820 --> 00:04:28,300 it just just fall out of the sky. 142 00:04:28,300 --> 00:04:29,860 They've come from the upper portion, 143 00:04:29,860 --> 00:04:30,860 and they just drop down. 144 00:04:30,860 --> 00:04:31,740 So inside they fall? 145 00:04:31,740 --> 00:04:33,060 They fall inside of the building. 146 00:04:33,060 --> 00:04:34,940 There was a person in the ladies' room. 147 00:04:34,940 --> 00:04:36,540 Dimes fell out on top of her. 148 00:04:36,540 --> 00:04:38,420 She came out hysterical. 149 00:04:38,420 --> 00:04:41,420 Just recently, out of nowhere, a dime 150 00:04:41,420 --> 00:04:44,300 came with such velocity towards me. 151 00:04:44,300 --> 00:04:47,300 I mean, it hit me right in, like, right when 152 00:04:47,300 --> 00:04:48,700 winging past me. 153 00:04:48,700 --> 00:04:51,220 And I thought somebody was playing a joke on me, 154 00:04:51,220 --> 00:04:53,260 but there was no one on that side. 155 00:04:53,260 --> 00:04:57,020 We've had a similar experience at a case in Massachusetts 156 00:04:57,020 --> 00:04:59,100 where pennies would show up on the floor. 157 00:04:59,100 --> 00:05:00,380 We don't know where they came from. 158 00:05:00,380 --> 00:05:01,740 Six at a time, they show up. 159 00:05:01,740 --> 00:05:02,740 Six at a time, yeah. 160 00:05:02,740 --> 00:05:03,940 All right, so where to now? 161 00:05:03,940 --> 00:05:05,900 All right, so we have the carousel room. 162 00:05:05,900 --> 00:05:07,940 And what's happened out there, we'll 163 00:05:07,940 --> 00:05:09,700 see the lights start to pulsate. 164 00:05:09,700 --> 00:05:10,940 Just come through here. 165 00:05:10,940 --> 00:05:11,740 Those will stop. 166 00:05:11,740 --> 00:05:12,900 These will start to pulsate. 167 00:05:12,900 --> 00:05:14,700 And you can just actually feel the energy 168 00:05:14,700 --> 00:05:15,700 as it comes through. 169 00:05:15,700 --> 00:05:18,020 It definitely has some type of energy. 170 00:05:18,020 --> 00:05:20,420 The lights pulsate at times. 171 00:05:20,420 --> 00:05:22,540 You can just feel an air about it. 172 00:05:22,540 --> 00:05:24,180 You know, there's just something different. 173 00:05:24,180 --> 00:05:26,620 In this area here, we used to have some rocking chairs 174 00:05:26,620 --> 00:05:28,060 to start rocking. 175 00:05:28,060 --> 00:05:30,860 Ruth Wooster loved rocking the rocking chair. 176 00:05:30,860 --> 00:05:33,820 One evening at a time when we came for dinner, 177 00:05:33,820 --> 00:05:36,180 myself and my children, we entered the door. 178 00:05:36,180 --> 00:05:37,420 We looked to the left. 179 00:05:37,420 --> 00:05:40,620 And there was a rocking chair that was rocking. 180 00:05:40,620 --> 00:05:42,020 And nobody else was present. 181 00:05:42,020 --> 00:05:45,980 When that occurred, it did raise the hair on my neck. 182 00:05:45,980 --> 00:05:47,220 All right, let's go upstairs. 183 00:05:47,220 --> 00:05:48,220 We'll look at all the bedrooms. 184 00:05:48,220 --> 00:05:49,540 And this is where there was a family. 185 00:05:49,540 --> 00:05:52,020 Took and slept the largest bedroom. 186 00:05:52,020 --> 00:05:55,620 This room right here, we had an investigation going around. 187 00:05:55,620 --> 00:05:58,260 And we had a very big skeptic from the radio station. 188 00:05:58,260 --> 00:06:00,260 He wanted to see a glass elevate to prove 189 00:06:00,260 --> 00:06:01,500 that things were happening. 190 00:06:01,500 --> 00:06:03,540 And when he said that, a glass came up off the table, 191 00:06:03,540 --> 00:06:06,500 came across, and went right into the mantle. 192 00:06:06,500 --> 00:06:11,020 I was present the night the country music station was here. 193 00:06:11,020 --> 00:06:13,020 And the DJ, he was a skeptic. 194 00:06:13,020 --> 00:06:15,540 You know, he was like, if there's a ghost here, you know, 195 00:06:15,540 --> 00:06:16,780 show me, do something. 196 00:06:16,780 --> 00:06:18,940 As he said that, a glass shattered. 197 00:06:18,940 --> 00:06:21,660 And after that, he was like, you know, I have kids. 198 00:06:21,660 --> 00:06:23,860 And he started getting scared. 199 00:06:23,860 --> 00:06:25,860 OK, I'd like to take you up to the third floor. 200 00:06:25,860 --> 00:06:27,900 What does someone expect to witness up here? 201 00:06:27,900 --> 00:06:29,220 Up here, we get a lot of orbs. 202 00:06:29,220 --> 00:06:32,060 Orbs just all over the place. 203 00:06:32,060 --> 00:06:34,020 I'm quite sure that, you know, TAPS 204 00:06:34,020 --> 00:06:36,900 will take and verify a lot that's going on in the building. 205 00:06:36,900 --> 00:06:39,380 And hopefully that happens tonight. 206 00:06:39,380 --> 00:06:41,860 Paul has been dealing a lot with mediums and psychics. 207 00:06:41,860 --> 00:06:44,540 They tend to blur what's really going on. 208 00:06:44,540 --> 00:06:46,460 Because even if they're legit, they're 209 00:06:46,460 --> 00:06:47,980 seeing things that we can't see. 210 00:06:47,980 --> 00:06:52,020 And it's hard to take that into real consideration. 211 00:06:52,020 --> 00:06:53,620 Paul told us at the rocking chair 212 00:06:53,620 --> 00:06:56,820 there will move on its own and rock and things like that. 213 00:06:56,820 --> 00:06:59,060 So Jane Grant has just a place of camera on it. 214 00:06:59,060 --> 00:07:01,540 And hopes we'll see it move or do whatever it's going to do. 215 00:07:01,540 --> 00:07:04,300 And that way we can have that as evidence. 216 00:07:04,300 --> 00:07:04,980 Look at this. 217 00:07:04,980 --> 00:07:05,740 Look at this light. 218 00:07:05,740 --> 00:07:06,580 Flickering. 219 00:07:06,580 --> 00:07:08,540 Do me a favor, tighten the bolt. 220 00:07:08,540 --> 00:07:10,820 And case solved. 221 00:07:10,820 --> 00:07:12,620 Ta-da. 222 00:07:12,620 --> 00:07:13,220 That should do it. 223 00:07:13,220 --> 00:07:14,380 That should be on. 224 00:07:14,380 --> 00:07:15,420 Everything's set. 225 00:07:15,420 --> 00:07:16,540 You know what that means. 226 00:07:16,540 --> 00:07:17,540 Lights out. 227 00:07:17,540 --> 00:07:27,700 MUSIC 228 00:07:27,700 --> 00:07:28,700 All right, come on. 229 00:07:33,180 --> 00:07:34,580 All right, what happened here, Jane? 230 00:07:34,580 --> 00:07:37,580 Here they had the glass move or something like that? 231 00:07:37,580 --> 00:07:42,140 Yeah, supposedly the glass shattered. 232 00:07:42,140 --> 00:07:47,340 2.4, 2.4, 2.3, 2.5. 233 00:07:47,340 --> 00:07:48,940 Looks like it'll look like a Halloween mask. 234 00:07:48,940 --> 00:07:50,340 Like it'd be made out of rubber. 235 00:07:55,540 --> 00:07:57,260 Starting this bar area. 236 00:07:57,260 --> 00:07:59,220 I'm going to do a sweep with the room, the digital thermometer. 237 00:07:59,220 --> 00:08:00,180 And then you have to, OK? 238 00:08:00,180 --> 00:08:02,140 Yeah. 239 00:08:02,140 --> 00:08:03,460 Something at 125 degrees. 240 00:08:03,460 --> 00:08:04,340 What the hell was that? 241 00:08:04,340 --> 00:08:05,780 There's fire right in front of you. 242 00:08:05,780 --> 00:08:06,740 Oh, OK, there's all right. 243 00:08:12,140 --> 00:08:15,460 MUSIC 244 00:08:15,460 --> 00:08:17,940 I'm checking on that cash register that levitates. 245 00:08:17,940 --> 00:08:20,020 That takes a lot to real levitate a cash register. 246 00:08:20,020 --> 00:08:20,940 Why do you think it's levitating? 247 00:08:20,940 --> 00:08:22,980 Man, it's a heavy piece of machinery. 248 00:08:22,980 --> 00:08:24,980 Mm-hmm. 249 00:08:24,980 --> 00:08:26,620 They said it actually lifted up. 250 00:08:26,620 --> 00:08:27,420 Mm-hmm. 251 00:08:27,420 --> 00:08:28,460 Wait, wait, slam down. 252 00:08:28,460 --> 00:08:29,540 Came forward. 253 00:08:29,540 --> 00:08:33,180 And to, came out forward, like to this area. 254 00:08:33,180 --> 00:08:35,060 I'm going to put this right here, OK? 255 00:08:35,060 --> 00:08:37,260 To boom, Mike, so it'll travel. 256 00:08:37,260 --> 00:08:40,860 Make sure we're recording on this. 257 00:08:40,940 --> 00:08:42,180 I need some weight on this. 258 00:08:42,180 --> 00:08:44,740 Just want to sit and see if we're good yet. 259 00:08:44,740 --> 00:08:45,420 Yeah, man. 260 00:08:45,420 --> 00:08:46,380 Camera shut off. 261 00:08:46,380 --> 00:08:47,180 Did it? 262 00:08:47,180 --> 00:08:48,180 Yeah. 263 00:08:48,180 --> 00:08:49,300 Weird. 264 00:08:49,300 --> 00:08:50,500 Did it just stop? 265 00:08:50,500 --> 00:08:51,180 Weird. 266 00:08:51,180 --> 00:08:52,980 Very. 267 00:08:52,980 --> 00:08:55,020 Is there anybody in here that would like to speak with us? 268 00:08:55,020 --> 00:08:58,620 MUSIC 269 00:09:10,860 --> 00:09:18,500 MUSIC 270 00:09:18,500 --> 00:09:20,100 All right, dude, let's get out of here. 271 00:09:20,100 --> 00:09:23,540 Yeah, let's make our way upstairs. 272 00:09:23,540 --> 00:09:25,340 All right, so we got to find the basement. 273 00:09:25,340 --> 00:09:26,580 I think it's in the kitchen. 274 00:09:26,580 --> 00:09:27,380 Usually, yeah. 275 00:09:27,380 --> 00:09:29,660 Because he said the spirit, even though he didn't show us 276 00:09:29,660 --> 00:09:32,300 the basement, said that the girl spirit came through the kitchen 277 00:09:32,300 --> 00:09:33,300 and went to the basement. 278 00:09:33,300 --> 00:09:34,100 That's right. 279 00:09:37,100 --> 00:09:37,900 Whoa. 280 00:09:37,900 --> 00:09:38,900 Don't cross my path. 281 00:09:38,900 --> 00:09:40,820 Oh, shoot, he did. 282 00:09:41,780 --> 00:09:43,740 Whoa, what the heck? 283 00:09:48,060 --> 00:09:49,900 It's not like that thing kicked on and did it, 284 00:09:49,900 --> 00:09:51,300 because I was on the whole time. 285 00:09:57,300 --> 00:10:00,180 See that light for a second? 286 00:10:00,180 --> 00:10:01,820 Yeah, not even touching. 287 00:10:01,820 --> 00:10:03,300 The whole thing, you're shook. 288 00:10:03,300 --> 00:10:07,220 It almost sounded like something lifted up a little bit. 289 00:10:07,220 --> 00:10:09,660 Just a bang. 290 00:10:09,660 --> 00:10:10,620 It's even louder than that. 291 00:10:14,220 --> 00:10:15,820 According to what he said, that cat 292 00:10:15,820 --> 00:10:17,820 plays with that spirit girl. 293 00:10:17,820 --> 00:10:20,220 But what I'm thinking is that cat just walked that way. 294 00:10:20,220 --> 00:10:21,220 So I want to follow him. 295 00:10:24,700 --> 00:10:25,780 I don't know. 296 00:10:25,780 --> 00:10:27,700 This is going to be one of the more movies that cat's going 297 00:10:27,700 --> 00:10:28,580 to jump. 298 00:10:28,580 --> 00:10:29,300 Ow. 299 00:10:29,300 --> 00:10:30,700 Turns into a man. 300 00:10:30,700 --> 00:10:33,020 Did I just tear him behind the school? 301 00:10:33,020 --> 00:10:37,300 It's like the lower down you go in the house, the lower the EMF. 302 00:10:37,340 --> 00:10:39,260 All right, just keep your eye open for that cat. 303 00:10:45,620 --> 00:10:46,700 The heck, man? 304 00:10:46,700 --> 00:10:48,140 How much money is down there? 305 00:10:48,140 --> 00:10:50,900 Why do they just draw door everywhere? 306 00:10:50,900 --> 00:10:53,220 It's like 8,000 rooms in this freaking house. 307 00:10:55,700 --> 00:10:57,540 They got their hot water turned open off? 308 00:10:57,540 --> 00:10:59,620 Yeah, that freaking line. 309 00:10:59,620 --> 00:11:02,020 That's third degree burns right there. 310 00:11:02,020 --> 00:11:04,540 They have five zones of heat in this building. 311 00:11:04,540 --> 00:11:06,140 All right, well, I think we swept the heck out 312 00:11:06,140 --> 00:11:07,380 of this basement. 313 00:11:07,380 --> 00:11:09,220 So we can scan the first floor and be done. 314 00:11:09,220 --> 00:11:09,620 Yeah. 315 00:11:09,620 --> 00:11:10,620 That's far. 316 00:11:16,100 --> 00:11:18,860 OK, in here, this is where I guess that, like you said, 317 00:11:18,860 --> 00:11:20,260 that thing levitated. 318 00:11:20,260 --> 00:11:20,860 Right. 319 00:11:20,860 --> 00:11:22,060 We've got a glass right here. 320 00:11:22,060 --> 00:11:23,780 Sit down right over here with the thing levitated. 321 00:11:23,780 --> 00:11:24,780 We can bring it out. 322 00:11:24,780 --> 00:11:25,340 All right. 323 00:11:25,340 --> 00:11:29,180 The glass temperature is 72.5. 324 00:11:29,180 --> 00:11:30,540 We need reading somewhere. 325 00:11:30,540 --> 00:11:31,820 If it's going to move, Steve, it's 326 00:11:31,820 --> 00:11:33,060 going to get colder or hotter for us, 327 00:11:33,060 --> 00:11:35,580 because the thing has to move it. 328 00:11:35,620 --> 00:11:38,780 Can you please give us a sign of your presence 329 00:11:38,780 --> 00:11:39,940 by moving this glass? 330 00:11:43,940 --> 00:11:45,380 Oh, the glass got colder. 331 00:11:45,380 --> 00:11:47,020 It's like 2 degrees. 332 00:11:47,020 --> 00:11:48,700 Can you please move that glass? 333 00:11:58,980 --> 00:12:02,940 Can you please move this glass for us? 334 00:12:02,980 --> 00:12:06,380 Levitate it, slide it, tip it over, crack it. 335 00:12:10,140 --> 00:12:17,100 Donna and Grant upstairs in the doll bedroom. 336 00:12:17,100 --> 00:12:19,820 I'm sorry, but if you're laying in bed 337 00:12:19,820 --> 00:12:24,060 and you look up at the man on the seat, 30 creepy dolls 338 00:12:24,060 --> 00:12:25,740 staring back at you, man, I would not 339 00:12:25,740 --> 00:12:27,700 be able to sleep at night. 340 00:12:27,700 --> 00:12:31,660 I hate dolls and clowns. 341 00:12:31,660 --> 00:12:37,140 Is there somebody here with us now that lights the dolls? 342 00:12:37,140 --> 00:12:38,460 Are you scared of us? 343 00:12:48,300 --> 00:12:50,260 OK, Steve, let's go up to the third floor 344 00:12:50,260 --> 00:12:53,260 and go in that room for a little while, OK? 345 00:12:53,260 --> 00:12:54,900 This is Horace's room. 346 00:12:54,900 --> 00:12:56,580 OK, what's supposed to happen here? 347 00:12:56,580 --> 00:12:58,580 This is where a majority of the activity, 348 00:12:58,580 --> 00:13:00,940 supposedly, takes place. 349 00:13:00,940 --> 00:13:03,820 They see apparition, have more levitation, 350 00:13:03,820 --> 00:13:06,900 certain objects, a lot of peripheral sightings. 351 00:13:06,900 --> 00:13:09,060 All right, let's do a semi-MF here. 352 00:13:09,060 --> 00:13:10,500 All right, I'll do the digital. 353 00:13:10,500 --> 00:13:11,220 0.2. 354 00:13:11,220 --> 00:13:12,940 It's cold up here, 63 degrees. 355 00:13:12,940 --> 00:13:18,900 0.1, 0.6, 0.2, 0.1. 356 00:13:18,900 --> 00:13:22,060 Is there anybody in here with us? 357 00:13:22,060 --> 00:13:23,940 Horace, are you in here? 358 00:13:23,940 --> 00:13:27,260 Can you please give us a sign of your presence? 359 00:13:27,260 --> 00:13:28,940 You move an object. 360 00:13:28,940 --> 00:13:30,340 What is that? 361 00:13:31,100 --> 00:13:32,500 You hear that? 362 00:13:32,500 --> 00:13:34,020 Yeah. 363 00:13:34,020 --> 00:13:35,660 Can you please give us one more noise, 364 00:13:35,660 --> 00:13:38,780 one more sign of your presence? 365 00:13:38,780 --> 00:13:39,900 Do it again. 366 00:13:39,900 --> 00:13:42,300 Do it again. 367 00:13:42,300 --> 00:13:43,500 All right. 368 00:13:43,500 --> 00:13:46,820 Horace, could you please give us a sign of your presence? 369 00:13:46,820 --> 00:13:50,380 Something as simple as a noise, a breeze, a whisper, 370 00:13:50,380 --> 00:13:52,780 full-bodied vapor separation. 371 00:13:52,780 --> 00:13:53,780 Hear that? 372 00:13:53,780 --> 00:13:56,180 Dun, dun, dun, dun, dun, dun. 373 00:13:56,180 --> 00:13:57,420 Oh, shh. 374 00:13:57,420 --> 00:13:58,580 Oh, serious? 375 00:13:58,620 --> 00:13:59,620 Oh, there's something outside? 376 00:14:04,460 --> 00:14:05,260 Rats. 377 00:14:05,260 --> 00:14:06,060 Oh, pigeon. 378 00:14:06,060 --> 00:14:07,060 I just hear the cooling outside. 379 00:14:11,780 --> 00:14:12,980 Don and I went around. 380 00:14:12,980 --> 00:14:14,820 We got nothing on the first hand. 381 00:14:14,820 --> 00:14:16,220 First hand experience is so far, 382 00:14:16,220 --> 00:14:18,620 what I've heard pretty weak is just us with the plates. 383 00:14:18,620 --> 00:14:21,580 If they do things because they want to be noticed, 384 00:14:21,580 --> 00:14:24,220 the first thing I would do is jump in front of every freaking 385 00:14:24,220 --> 00:14:25,420 camera that came around. 386 00:14:25,420 --> 00:14:26,540 I know. 387 00:14:26,540 --> 00:14:28,180 And I gave up on that as a motivation. 388 00:14:28,180 --> 00:14:30,660 Yeah, I'd be going like, hey, dude. 389 00:14:30,660 --> 00:14:32,700 Yeah, I don't think that's a motivation. 390 00:14:32,700 --> 00:14:35,700 So whoever came up with that theory, throw it out. 391 00:14:35,700 --> 00:14:36,580 It's getting late. 392 00:14:36,580 --> 00:14:38,380 We should probably just wrap it up. 393 00:14:38,380 --> 00:14:39,580 Yeah. 394 00:14:39,580 --> 00:14:40,260 Holy cow. 395 00:14:40,260 --> 00:14:41,620 Man, I was looking for. 396 00:14:41,620 --> 00:14:42,380 You ready to wrap? 397 00:14:42,380 --> 00:14:43,260 Break it all down. 398 00:14:43,260 --> 00:14:43,660 All right. 399 00:14:43,660 --> 00:14:44,620 Well, let's call it a night. 400 00:14:44,620 --> 00:14:45,260 Let's do it. 401 00:14:45,260 --> 00:14:45,780 Lights on. 402 00:14:53,300 --> 00:14:55,500 Tonight, as far as first hand experiences, 403 00:14:55,500 --> 00:14:56,860 when we were sitting at the bar, I 404 00:14:56,900 --> 00:14:59,500 did feel something go through my hair. 405 00:14:59,500 --> 00:15:00,620 I wasn't a breeze. 406 00:15:00,620 --> 00:15:03,780 I actually felt a touch of my scalp. 407 00:15:03,780 --> 00:15:05,260 The second thing was, Aljay and I 408 00:15:05,260 --> 00:15:06,140 moved through the kitchen. 409 00:15:06,140 --> 00:15:09,340 There was a stack of plates that just kind of banged. 410 00:15:09,340 --> 00:15:10,100 It's hard to describe. 411 00:15:10,100 --> 00:15:11,540 It just ain't a noise. 412 00:15:11,540 --> 00:15:12,340 Like someone hit them. 413 00:15:17,740 --> 00:15:19,740 Thanks. 414 00:15:19,740 --> 00:15:21,820 This is where she comes out. 415 00:15:21,820 --> 00:15:23,980 We are done. 416 00:15:23,980 --> 00:15:26,300 Well, Paul, really appreciate you having us out here tonight. 417 00:15:26,300 --> 00:15:27,460 Thank you for coming down. 418 00:15:27,460 --> 00:15:28,540 It's been wonderful. 419 00:15:28,540 --> 00:15:29,620 It's a great place. 420 00:15:29,620 --> 00:15:30,180 Thank you. 421 00:15:30,180 --> 00:15:31,620 So what we're going to do over the next few days 422 00:15:31,620 --> 00:15:33,460 is analyze all the evidence we've gathered here. 423 00:15:33,460 --> 00:15:34,860 And we're going to give you a call, come back, 424 00:15:34,860 --> 00:15:36,060 sit down, let you know what we found, 425 00:15:36,060 --> 00:15:37,420 what we didn't find, and so forth. 426 00:15:37,420 --> 00:15:38,620 That sounds like a great plan. 427 00:15:38,620 --> 00:15:38,900 All right. 428 00:15:38,900 --> 00:15:40,220 Well, you get some sleep, OK? 429 00:15:40,220 --> 00:15:41,100 Get some sleep now. 430 00:15:41,100 --> 00:15:41,660 Thank you again. 431 00:15:41,660 --> 00:15:41,980 Good night. 432 00:15:41,980 --> 00:15:42,660 Get easy, Paul. 433 00:15:42,660 --> 00:15:43,900 Good night. 434 00:15:43,900 --> 00:15:46,340 Paul, I think the investigation tonight went very well. 435 00:15:46,340 --> 00:15:47,700 Tapped an excellent job. 436 00:15:47,700 --> 00:15:49,460 I think we got some action going on. 437 00:15:49,460 --> 00:15:50,860 I think they're going to come back these days. 438 00:15:51,860 --> 00:15:54,820 I'm on my way to go do some research on the Carousel Gardens 439 00:15:54,820 --> 00:15:55,540 restaurant. 440 00:15:55,540 --> 00:15:58,180 I hope to hook up with David and Elise, the historians, 441 00:15:58,180 --> 00:16:00,380 at the Seymour Historical Society, 442 00:16:00,380 --> 00:16:01,980 and get to the bottom of some of these questions 443 00:16:01,980 --> 00:16:03,860 that I have about the restaurant. 444 00:16:03,860 --> 00:16:05,780 So I'm looking for some specific information 445 00:16:05,780 --> 00:16:08,060 on the Carousel Garden House. 446 00:16:08,060 --> 00:16:11,540 We're hearing these stories about hauntings and paranormal 447 00:16:11,540 --> 00:16:12,500 events. 448 00:16:12,500 --> 00:16:15,380 Do you have any evidence to shed light 449 00:16:15,380 --> 00:16:17,060 on some of these stories? 450 00:16:17,060 --> 00:16:19,740 We know that the home was built in the 19th century. 451 00:16:19,740 --> 00:16:22,140 The home was built in 1895. 452 00:16:22,140 --> 00:16:24,780 And the only owners and the only people living there 453 00:16:24,780 --> 00:16:25,780 was the Worcester family. 454 00:16:25,780 --> 00:16:27,180 They raised their children there. 455 00:16:27,180 --> 00:16:31,340 The Worcester family lived there until the last living 456 00:16:31,340 --> 00:16:33,980 daughter, Ruth, passed away. 457 00:16:33,980 --> 00:16:36,700 Do you have any pictures of Ruth? 458 00:16:36,700 --> 00:16:39,980 Only as a baby, not as an adult. 459 00:16:39,980 --> 00:16:42,540 We have no knowledge of the Worcester family 460 00:16:42,540 --> 00:16:45,260 having anything tragic or anything 461 00:16:45,260 --> 00:16:48,940 happen at the house that would relate to the house being 462 00:16:48,940 --> 00:16:49,620 haunted. 463 00:16:49,620 --> 00:16:53,500 Now, we've heard that the land that the house was built on 464 00:16:53,500 --> 00:16:55,420 was Indian burial grounds. 465 00:16:55,420 --> 00:17:00,300 It's to me very highly unlikely that an Indian burial 466 00:17:00,300 --> 00:17:02,580 ground would be over in that area. 467 00:17:02,580 --> 00:17:05,140 Thank you very much for taking time out of your schedules 468 00:17:05,140 --> 00:17:07,260 to sit down with me and answer all my questions. 469 00:17:07,260 --> 00:17:09,860 Hopefully, this can answer some of the questions 470 00:17:09,860 --> 00:17:10,980 some of us have. 471 00:17:10,980 --> 00:17:11,980 We hope so. 472 00:17:11,980 --> 00:17:12,480 We hope so. 473 00:17:12,840 --> 00:17:15,280 What's up? 474 00:17:15,280 --> 00:17:16,680 Carousel gardens. 475 00:17:16,680 --> 00:17:18,040 We reviewed everything. 476 00:17:18,040 --> 00:17:19,480 We paid close attention. 477 00:17:19,480 --> 00:17:20,680 Looking for mists. 478 00:17:20,680 --> 00:17:23,040 Looking for shiny objects because maybe we 479 00:17:23,040 --> 00:17:25,280 captured some of the dimes falling. 480 00:17:25,280 --> 00:17:27,640 We looked for orb activity. 481 00:17:27,640 --> 00:17:29,640 We watched the rocking chair. 482 00:17:29,640 --> 00:17:32,760 And we didn't find anything in any of that. 483 00:17:32,760 --> 00:17:34,960 Too bad we don't have a camera to pick up psychic energy. 484 00:17:34,960 --> 00:17:36,080 We're not nuts, I'm sure. 485 00:17:36,080 --> 00:17:38,880 We'll see that's the thing, that you can't seem to get out 486 00:17:38,880 --> 00:17:39,880 of the house. 487 00:17:39,880 --> 00:17:42,480 We'll see that's the thing, that you can't seem to get 488 00:17:42,480 --> 00:17:45,240 any solid evidence for the world to see. 489 00:17:45,240 --> 00:17:46,240 You know what I mean? 490 00:17:46,240 --> 00:17:49,640 You're basing the whole investigation on feelings. 491 00:17:49,640 --> 00:17:50,800 The claims were huge. 492 00:17:50,800 --> 00:17:53,320 I think if we were able to meet any of those claims, 493 00:17:53,320 --> 00:17:54,960 I would have been blown out of the water. 494 00:17:54,960 --> 00:17:55,800 Well, it's interesting. 495 00:17:55,800 --> 00:17:59,640 I mean, I went down there today and met with two historians, 496 00:17:59,640 --> 00:18:00,520 David and Elise. 497 00:18:00,520 --> 00:18:02,960 They've been doing research for the society 498 00:18:02,960 --> 00:18:04,640 for about 30 years. 499 00:18:04,640 --> 00:18:07,280 And one of the questions I had was, 500 00:18:07,280 --> 00:18:09,200 was this built on Indian burial grounds? 501 00:18:09,200 --> 00:18:11,040 Like, a lot of the stories are claiming. 502 00:18:11,040 --> 00:18:14,680 And they do not think it's likely that Indians would have 503 00:18:14,680 --> 00:18:16,160 buried their dead in that spot. 504 00:18:16,160 --> 00:18:17,520 All right, well, you know what? 505 00:18:17,520 --> 00:18:18,920 We did what we could do. 506 00:18:18,920 --> 00:18:21,640 Pretty much now we just got to go sit down and let them out. 507 00:18:21,640 --> 00:18:23,080 Well, good job, guys. 508 00:18:23,080 --> 00:18:24,280 Thank you, girls. 509 00:18:24,280 --> 00:18:25,080 I'll see you all there. 510 00:18:25,080 --> 00:18:25,580 OK. 511 00:18:30,580 --> 00:18:32,080 Well, this should be interesting for David. 512 00:18:32,080 --> 00:18:35,280 Yeah, well, there may have been some real activity in the past. 513 00:18:35,280 --> 00:18:38,440 There may still be some, but not what their claims are. 514 00:18:38,440 --> 00:18:40,320 It's just been trumped up, I think. 515 00:18:40,320 --> 00:18:43,600 We just need to make sure that we start that process with Paul 516 00:18:43,600 --> 00:18:46,480 today, how these images he's capturing. 517 00:18:46,480 --> 00:18:48,880 Don't jump, not necessarily paranormal. 518 00:18:48,880 --> 00:18:50,880 Don't jump to that conclusion right off the bat. 519 00:18:50,880 --> 00:18:51,880 You know, it's worth it. 520 00:18:51,880 --> 00:18:53,600 Don't ever get me wrong. 521 00:18:53,600 --> 00:18:56,080 I just don't know if it's going to work. 522 00:19:04,960 --> 00:19:06,080 Paul, how you been? 523 00:19:06,080 --> 00:19:06,920 I've been good. 524 00:19:06,920 --> 00:19:07,720 How about you? 525 00:19:08,000 --> 00:19:08,640 Nice seeing you. 526 00:19:08,640 --> 00:19:10,040 Always a pleasure. 527 00:19:10,040 --> 00:19:13,400 Well, as you know, we came here to listen to the claims 528 00:19:13,400 --> 00:19:15,640 and to see about validating them. 529 00:19:15,640 --> 00:19:18,160 And some of the ones that you told us about that we 530 00:19:18,160 --> 00:19:20,920 were interested in were Dimes. 531 00:19:20,920 --> 00:19:23,040 We have Dimes that show up here. 532 00:19:23,040 --> 00:19:24,520 The rocking chair that would move. 533 00:19:24,520 --> 00:19:27,320 And we brought a rocking chair down in that place 534 00:19:27,320 --> 00:19:28,920 and see if there was any movement. 535 00:19:28,920 --> 00:19:31,840 We stuck a camera on it the whole night to capture that. 536 00:19:31,840 --> 00:19:33,680 So our objective is to take these claims 537 00:19:33,680 --> 00:19:36,040 and try to validate them, try to figure out 538 00:19:36,040 --> 00:19:38,120 if it's something paranormal causing them 539 00:19:38,120 --> 00:19:40,120 or if it's something very normal causing them. 540 00:19:40,120 --> 00:19:43,560 We also had Donna go do research on history at home. 541 00:19:43,560 --> 00:19:46,360 She said that according to the historian she talked to, 542 00:19:46,360 --> 00:19:48,160 they don't know for sure whether this was 543 00:19:48,160 --> 00:19:50,680 or was not built on an Indian burial ground. 544 00:19:50,680 --> 00:19:54,360 But they say chances are it wasn't because of the location. 545 00:19:54,360 --> 00:19:55,480 Well, this is what happens. 546 00:19:55,480 --> 00:19:56,520 People come in and dine. 547 00:19:56,520 --> 00:19:59,280 And they come up with their theory of what's out there. 548 00:19:59,280 --> 00:20:00,280 And they sit down at the table. 549 00:20:00,280 --> 00:20:02,360 And they'll tell their story to them. 550 00:20:02,360 --> 00:20:02,880 Exactly. 551 00:20:02,880 --> 00:20:04,240 And that changes tenfold. 552 00:20:04,240 --> 00:20:06,440 And you know, and so forth. 553 00:20:06,440 --> 00:20:10,280 Mostly people come through here who are psychics or mediums. 554 00:20:10,280 --> 00:20:12,000 And this is where they pick up on things. 555 00:20:12,000 --> 00:20:14,080 Having the scientific way of doing it 556 00:20:14,080 --> 00:20:16,600 is another approach that you're doing right now. 557 00:20:16,600 --> 00:20:17,280 Exactly. 558 00:20:17,280 --> 00:20:19,360 They can tell you what they experience, 559 00:20:19,360 --> 00:20:21,640 but they can't show you what they experience. 560 00:20:21,640 --> 00:20:23,520 That's where the scientific aspects come in. 561 00:20:23,520 --> 00:20:26,640 We're there to try to show you what we caught. 562 00:20:26,640 --> 00:20:28,680 You know, the only thing is on the scientific end, 563 00:20:28,680 --> 00:20:30,280 we didn't catch anything. 564 00:20:30,280 --> 00:20:30,760 OK. 565 00:20:30,760 --> 00:20:34,200 You know, so while we're investigating, 566 00:20:34,200 --> 00:20:37,280 we had one little experience that wasn't big. 567 00:20:37,280 --> 00:20:38,960 But as we entered into the kitchen, 568 00:20:38,960 --> 00:20:41,280 a stack of plates made pretty loud bang. 569 00:20:41,280 --> 00:20:42,000 Yeah. 570 00:20:42,000 --> 00:20:42,960 Started shaking. 571 00:20:42,960 --> 00:20:45,200 That freezer next to it was shaking, 572 00:20:45,200 --> 00:20:47,280 but it wasn't touching the other thing at all. 573 00:20:47,280 --> 00:20:50,200 Something happened to move those plates pretty hard. 574 00:20:50,200 --> 00:20:50,920 OK. 575 00:20:50,920 --> 00:20:54,480 But I just want to share that with you as possibility. 576 00:20:54,480 --> 00:20:58,280 Well, going around the night that you were here, 577 00:20:58,280 --> 00:20:59,160 I took pictures. 578 00:20:59,160 --> 00:21:02,640 And two of the pictures in the bar, two had orbs at them. 579 00:21:02,640 --> 00:21:05,360 Yeah, the tough thing about orbs are orbs, 580 00:21:05,360 --> 00:21:07,000 a lot of orbs can be recreated. 581 00:21:07,000 --> 00:21:08,800 Well, Paul, I want to show you something 582 00:21:08,800 --> 00:21:11,240 in regards to those orbs and things. 583 00:21:11,240 --> 00:21:13,120 You showed us a couple of pictures of mist. 584 00:21:13,120 --> 00:21:14,840 This is a picture that I took. 585 00:21:14,840 --> 00:21:16,320 And you see this mist. 586 00:21:16,320 --> 00:21:19,600 In our history, when we've seen a paranormal activity 587 00:21:19,600 --> 00:21:22,960 or whatever, taking a picture, it comes out looking like this. 588 00:21:22,960 --> 00:21:25,240 But if you look at this one, as you see, 589 00:21:25,240 --> 00:21:27,320 it's just cigar smoke. 590 00:21:27,320 --> 00:21:28,000 OK. 591 00:21:28,000 --> 00:21:31,400 But that looks very similar, kind of to the thing 592 00:21:31,440 --> 00:21:34,280 that you caught of the animals, you said. 593 00:21:34,280 --> 00:21:34,880 OK. 594 00:21:34,880 --> 00:21:37,720 It's very similar to cigarette cigar smoke. 595 00:21:37,720 --> 00:21:39,400 If someone had just blown out a candle, 596 00:21:39,400 --> 00:21:40,800 it would look like this. 597 00:21:40,800 --> 00:21:43,040 And it would look like very similar to that picture. 598 00:21:43,040 --> 00:21:44,560 Not saying that that's what it was. 599 00:21:44,560 --> 00:21:46,960 But keep your eye open for those kind of things. 600 00:21:46,960 --> 00:21:49,480 You've had a lot of mediums and psychics come in here. 601 00:21:49,480 --> 00:21:51,360 And you've learned how they do it. 602 00:21:51,360 --> 00:21:53,280 We just tried to help teach you how we do it, 603 00:21:53,280 --> 00:21:55,680 so you can learn some of our skills as well. 604 00:21:55,680 --> 00:21:57,720 Now, do you have any questions for us? 605 00:21:57,720 --> 00:21:58,960 I hope you had a great time here. 606 00:21:58,960 --> 00:21:59,720 Oh, we did. 607 00:21:59,720 --> 00:22:00,960 Going through the mansion. 608 00:22:01,000 --> 00:22:01,920 The place is awesome. 609 00:22:01,920 --> 00:22:03,120 The people are awesome. 610 00:22:03,120 --> 00:22:05,240 We really want to say thank you very much for having us out. 611 00:22:05,240 --> 00:22:06,640 Well, I appreciate you being here. 612 00:22:06,640 --> 00:22:07,520 It was a pleasure. 613 00:22:07,520 --> 00:22:08,320 Thank you. 614 00:22:08,320 --> 00:22:08,840 Thank you. 615 00:22:08,840 --> 00:22:09,400 Thank you. 616 00:22:09,400 --> 00:22:10,360 All right, come on, we'll get out. 617 00:22:10,360 --> 00:22:12,040 Yeah. 618 00:22:12,040 --> 00:22:14,440 Jason and Grant came back, and they explained to me 619 00:22:14,440 --> 00:22:15,160 what they found. 620 00:22:15,160 --> 00:22:17,880 They really could not validate anything that was here. 621 00:22:17,880 --> 00:22:19,280 But they did a great job. 622 00:22:19,280 --> 00:22:22,520 And I learned that things can be fabricated on film. 623 00:22:22,520 --> 00:22:25,120 They explained to me that I should be a little more careful 624 00:22:25,120 --> 00:22:28,040 when the mediums and psychics do come through 625 00:22:28,040 --> 00:22:30,680 and to get more scientific information on what 626 00:22:30,680 --> 00:22:32,280 they're seeing and what they're not seeing. 627 00:22:32,280 --> 00:22:34,280 So they've explained this to me, and I'll 628 00:22:34,280 --> 00:22:36,720 be more aware of what's going on. 629 00:22:36,720 --> 00:22:38,760 Well, man, you didn't take it bad. 630 00:22:38,760 --> 00:22:40,440 There are definitely two schools of thought 631 00:22:40,440 --> 00:22:41,160 in the paranormal. 632 00:22:41,160 --> 00:22:43,880 There's the feeling psychic base, 633 00:22:43,880 --> 00:22:46,440 and there's a hardcore fact base. 634 00:22:46,440 --> 00:22:49,120 And some people, no matter what, the other one says, 635 00:22:49,120 --> 00:22:50,240 just will stay in one. 636 00:22:50,240 --> 00:22:51,800 I'm not going to the medium base. 637 00:22:51,800 --> 00:22:54,800 The medium base is a little easier. 638 00:22:54,800 --> 00:22:55,920 I see. 639 00:22:55,920 --> 00:22:57,640 It's more romantic paranormal. 640 00:22:57,640 --> 00:23:00,080 I mean, you've got the ghosts and the people in turmoil, 641 00:23:00,120 --> 00:23:02,000 and you can see them and feel them. 642 00:23:02,000 --> 00:23:04,520 Yeah, I mean, if you're a dramatic type person, 643 00:23:04,520 --> 00:23:06,280 I would think you're going to fall into that. 644 00:23:06,280 --> 00:23:07,640 We did what we could do. 645 00:23:07,640 --> 00:23:09,400 We said what we could say. 646 00:23:09,400 --> 00:23:11,800 And he's going to make his own choices from here. 647 00:23:11,800 --> 00:23:14,720 So on to the next. 648 00:23:14,720 --> 00:23:16,680 But first let's get home. 649 00:23:16,680 --> 00:23:17,640 Always. 650 00:23:17,640 --> 00:23:19,520 Got to get there first.